X – Thames Valley 27 Hole Layout [Red, White and Blue 9’s] (Layout #8) 1984-1992

X – Thames Valley 27 Hole Layout [Red, White and Blue 9’s] (Layout #8) 1984-1992

Thames Valley layout from June 15, 1984 until August 26, 1992. The Red, White and Blue three equal nines system.

Thames Valley Layout #8, 1984-1992, Interesting Facts and Figures


850 Sunninghill Ave, London, Ontario


City of London

Year Built

In operation from June 15, 1984 until a layout change on August 26, 1992


John Innes designed the majority of the holes at Thames Valley. Bill Fox designed seven new holes and greens and changed the routing of the holes for this layout with the help of consultant Rene Muylaert

Golf Professional

Fred Kern      PGA of Canada

Greens Superintendents

John Cowie [1983-1992], Cheryl Bell [1992-2011]

Significant Tournaments

Thames Valley Invitational
Men’s Best Ball

Signature Hole

White #5, today’s Classic #7

Underrated Hole

White #3 – presently #4 on the Hickory Nine
Length is of little value off the tee on this hole…..positioning is everything

Best Players

Rick Bender
Linda Bailey
Jay Johnson
Jim Caughlin
Paul Herbrand
Mike Newman
Sue Trowell
Wally Keating
John Langmuir
John Faries
Art Gaus

Five Best Features

Good use of entire property for recreational golf
Revenue generation
Irrigation and design upgrades were included in the project
Accessibility and affordability

 Interesting Fact

Although this layout may not have been popular with golf purists, it was very successful in its goal to provide accessible, affordable golf to Londoners while providing a solid self sustaining business model.

About Thames Valley Layout #8, 1984-1992 – The Red, White and Blue Nines

No layout change at any City of London golf course has ever caused anywhere near the controversy that happened as a result of the plan and implementation to change Thames Valley into three equal, regulation, par 35 nines. The changeover to this layout occurred on June 15, 1984 but the controversy began as soon as the plans were unveiled in May 1982. Thames Valley at the time had a fully irrigated, par 72, 18 hole layout and a short executive nine of par 30 which had virtually no irrigation of any kind. Play had dropped off at the nine hole course in recent years since 1973 when the executive course had been shortened. Other golf operations had sprung up on the outskirts of London and existing courses like East Park had improved their product significantly. Suddenly there were a few more options for public golfers.

The motivation to try to improve the course in this fashion was almost certainly a result of the success of opening a third nine at Fanshawe the year before. 27 hole golf operations have several operational advantages such as providing 18 holes for players during aerification or pesticide applications, accommodation for members during outside tournaments and economies of scale for turf equipment and irrigation systems. 27 hole golf operations are efficient. The fact that there was no irrigation on the entire northeast corner of Thames Valley in 1982 was amazing……..not even for the greens. The decision to operate both London PUC courses on an equal footing with 27 hole layouts with the nines identified by colour [Red, White, Blue] was a reasonable plan. At Thames Valley the decision to include irrigation to all of the holes as part of the changeover was a big plus, and a virtual necessity. The project was a success. It came in under budget for construction and because revenue was being generated from three nines, it was a financial bonanza.

Not all was well however. The three “equal” nines were not all that equal and there were some strange walks from tee to green. Eventually the course ran mostly like it always had with the two best nines [Red and White] functioning as the “18 hole course” and the short, somewhat disjointed Blue Nine functioning as the “Nine Hole Course”. During the salad days of golf for the City System in the 1980’s the two 27 hole layouts at Thames Valley and Fanshawe basically provided enough excess revenue to finance the construction of River Road and by carryover effect, the final nine holes of the Quarry and the Parkside Nine.

Published Material, Thames Valley Layout #8, Red, White and Blue Nines

Excerpt from “From Rough to Fairway” (John Cowie 2010)

Thames Valley Layout #8, Red, White and Blue Nines – Layout Diagram

Layout diagram of the “Red, White and Blue”, 27 hole layout that was in play from June 15, 1984 until August 26, 1992. Looks OK on the scorecard but the Blue Nine was not quite the equal of the other two.

Thames Valley Layout #8, Red, White and Blue Nines, Scorecard

Scorecard for the “three equal nines” system. Red Nine, White Nine, Blue Nine

Thames Valley Layout #8 [1984-1992], Opening Ceremonies

Councillor Veronica Dryden officially opens the 27 hole layout of Thames Valley and renames it in honor of E.V. Buchanon, the founder of the club.

The first Thames Valley Club Champion, Vic Bullock, who won in 1925, hits a ball at the opening ceremonies.

I hit one with a hickory shafted club and a jacket and tie on. Not an easy thing to do.

E.V. Buchanon's niece hits a shot and Director of Golf, Bill Fox looks on.

Fred Kern hits a ball off the first tee.


“The 19th Hole” – Thames Valley Layout #8, 1984-1992 – The Red, White and Blue Nines

Only a short commentary is necessary here. The 27 hole layout at Thames Valley did exactly what it was supposed to do. It generated massive revenue, provided plenty of spaces for recreational golfers to play in an era when there were not enough golf courses to meet the demand and the holes were still challenging enough for the recreational player.

The problem at Thames Valley [and probably always will be] is that the potential of the course, from a pure golf point of view, to be great is just sitting there. All that it would take would be a substantial investment in renovations and maintenance and an accompanying substantial rise in the cost to play the course. Likely it would have to go to green fees only to the detriment of the loyal existing members. Tough political sell.

The decision to revert to the Classic 18 course in 1992 was only made when the London PUC was convinced that the Hickory Nine could stand on its own and provide quality golf for the players using it and to fit in with the system mandate to provide affordable, accessible golf.